As the consequence of the complete answer site policy, there is a wide gap between

  • complete answers to stay
  • question comments of limited lifespan to be deleted.

As there is large scale of intermittent purposes, like, but not limited to, the answer hints and partial answers, when the responder cannot or do not want to provide the complete answer.

I agree with the general idea of moderator-move of comments with extensive discussions to chat. I am the last to talk here, as I frequently let myself to contribute to them, before realizing I am doing it again.

But, I have frequent feeling some comments are not necessarily part of intensive discussion and stand, or can stand alone and are still valid. Moving them to chat moves them away of sight and can be eventually wiped out as the chat expires. For some MathJax based comments, it may even cripple them, as chats do not support it.

Sometimes, such move can be rather loss than gain for the question. In Czech, we have saying for similar situations like "to pour out the child together with water ( from a portable bath)".

But I'm not sure if mods can do selective move. And selective delete would be OTOH too harsh for "on topic, but chatty comments". It is quite possible mods do make such selective choices, just their opinion over particular comments is different to mine. Or, they may just overlook some useful comments.

I would be interested to know the community opinion how to deal with "seeds and weeds",what mods can and cannot do and what would be eventually too much effort for them. And what common users can do to help mods to eventually keep useful comments and move the rest.

Personally, I frequently delete my older comments, that look in hindsight like little "chatty", from the comment chain. But without all participants doing so, it may not bring much gain.

I was adviced to tag the other comments for deletion, but I often consider it rude. I prefer to suggest by a comment the other user to delete them.

I have quite intentionally not included particular cases, not to make impression I am irritated by a particular case, possibly affecting some of my comments. I rather aim for community consent about getting the best from comment feature, for all being happy about that.

I have to learn more about chat feature available to senior users, as I admit I am not familiar with it much. Note also I seldom know in advance I may be starting extensive discussion to launch and offer a chat instead.

  • $\begingroup$ Selective deletes are possible, but I rarely find a use for them. One-liner comments (incl. many of mine, to be honest) are honestly not worth keeping. They may be funny, but an answer brings the point across better; and I find that by the time I reach a question which needs comments to be cleaned up, there are usually one or more answers already. Whether that reflects me being tardy or timely is up to the reader to decide :-) $\endgroup$ Mar 9, 2021 at 14:42
  • $\begingroup$ Possibly related: meta.stackexchange.com/q/353643/391772 $\endgroup$ Mar 10, 2021 at 0:10

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Please note that I am talking about my own experiences and I do not speak for the moderator team in this instance.

Dealing with comments is not much fun.

Most of the times the comment flags that come in are obvious and I simply move to delete them. I cannot always check whether they would destroy an argumentative chain or conversation. Comments are not for conversations. In my opinion they aim to improve a post. If that is achieved they can safely be discarded. If they criticise a post in a manner that offers information directly regarding the question, they should probably be answers instead. In all other cases they probably are only tangentially related to the question and should either be deleted after a while or the conversation should have happened in a chat room.

I personally do not like to move comments to chat, especially not, when I see that the discussion is over. Any chain shorter than 20 comments is not worth moving to chat. They will linger there for a time until the chat room itself gets deleted. Why avoid the inevitable.

Selecting comments is a no go for me. Either the conversation should be moved in its entirety or not at all. The process of anything else would be tedious and I cannot even start to imagine the pain I will have if I do something one of the participants is unhappy with. I have been 'shouted' at for less in the past.

In my personal opinion: Every comment should be deleted; if it were important enough to be kept it should be an answer or directly incorporated into one. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but one of the reasons I like this platform is that I do not have to read through conversations.

Some more clarifications:

Some comments are just comments, not conversation, being trapped within conversation of others. I agree comments should be eventually deleted, but probably not before their reason is addressed. It may be minutes and it may be years. Some comments do not have much sense as an answer or are not suitable as an answer due the complete answer policy.

If you find a comment missing (because it was moved to chat or deleted otherwise), please raise a custom flag and the moderator team may restore such important ones with critical information.

If there are comments to my answer, I usually include my response to the answer, but it is mostly not applicable. I remember as the 1st comment laconic note from Ivan Neretin "No, it is not" but was moved to chat as extensive discussion. Quite funny.

I am sorry, but I do not get it. Neither the reference, nor why it would be funny.

As I said before as a moderator you'll have a choice: all or nothing, or quite a bit of extra work. I am not going to do that extra work for some random discussion. If some other people decide to use the comments as a chatterbox, then that first comment will be moved, too. There is no selective moving.

Just to make you aware of this awful process: Selective move would mean deleting the comments not belonging to that conversation, then moving the conversation to chat (which by the way can be done exactly once), then undeleting the comments which may still be relevant. Given that you are dealing with extensive discussions that means reading the whole thing again, and again, separating out the ones that have been deleted from other reasons.

I am thankful for you including remarks into the answer; this is not the standard.

If there are comments of just 2 users, than usually is soon raised the trigger to be moved to chat, what I often use. And there is still selective option to post a standalone comment as usually, out of the chat.

If that automatic link is triggered then usually some kind of conversation is happening. If you want to discuss an answer or question, you should do it in chat. You are a high-reputation user, you can create these rooms before that automatisms trigger, or just use the periodic table. There'S not much going on currently.

But if multiple users are involved, in my experience such triggering to move to chat does not happen, or at least the mod intervention comes sooner.

The automatic 'move conversation to chat link' only picks up a conversation between two people.

The automatic system flag only triggers by itself if there are more than 20 comments. Othertimes a user raises a custom flag. In both cases it is at the discretion of a moderator to move comments to a chat room. I usually don't do that, because I see no point in creating chat rooms that no-one will visit.

There is only intervention by one of the moderators if there is a reason to act. I personally would never proactively move comments to a chat room. As I said before it is no fun.

Further clarifications:

I agree with the general policy of moving comments with extensive discussions to chat.

There is no such policy. This is a service moderators may provide If a conversation is still ongoing and/or worth retaining.

But, I have frequent feeling this mod feature may be occasionally used too aggressively.

I really wanted to avoid talking about it, I really wanted to let this slide, but I am offended by this. There is nothing aggressive about moving comments to a chat room, it is the opposite. I might have agreed to a certain degree if you had claimed that the moderators would be purging comments on a regular basis; of course that is not true either.

You might not have meant it that way, but to me it feels like you are accusing the moderator team (which includes me) of abusing site mechanisms.

I would be interested to know the community opinion how to deal with "seeds and weeds",what mods can and cannot do and what would be eventually too much effort for them. And what common users can do to help mods to eventually keep useful comments and move the rest.

I cannot speak for the community, I cannot speak for the moderating team; I can only speak for myself. If you are forced to read a block of comments, then understand the answer and the questions they belong to, then judge whether any rules are broken, then decide whose feelings get hurt when you delete one too many comments, then get accused of doing just that thing, then well, that is too much effort.
It takes a single flag by one of the users to create an avalanche of things to take care of, because one of the other users did not agree and has no knowledge of the flag.

Also I think with 'what mods can and cannot do' you mean what you want the moderators to do, which rules you would like to set them to follow. Or do I see that wrong?

Personally, I frequently delete my older comments, that look in hindsight like little "chatty", from the comment chain. But without all participants doing so, it may not bring much gain.

If you are deleting your old comments, then please flag the other ones for removal, too. Nobody needs half a conversation.

This has become a rant. I'm sure your intentions are nice, but without more data, it is hard to not take this general post personal.

I reiterate: Everything I have written here is my personal opinion.

  • $\begingroup$ @Poutnik You might want to have a look at my additions. $\endgroup$ Mar 8, 2021 at 22:47
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks a lot for your time. I have not meant it personally at all , considering it as discussion and tried to make such an impression, but perhaps I was not successful. $\endgroup$
    – Poutnik
    Mar 9, 2021 at 5:59
  • $\begingroup$ I have meant funny, in a good way, considering "No, it is not" as reaction to a question as extensive discussion. :-) No big deal. $\endgroup$
    – Poutnik
    Mar 9, 2021 at 6:03
  • $\begingroup$ I'm sure your intentions are nice, but without more data, it is hard to not take this general post personal. I have been trying the opposite, keeping the topic general not to be considered personal, being irritated by a particular case. I am not iritated by any particular case. It may have been a wrong idea. I apologize for that. $\endgroup$
    – Poutnik
    Mar 12, 2021 at 7:26
  • $\begingroup$ @Poutnik I have probably overreacted, too. So I do apologise for that. Maybe I needed to let out some steam and this provided an opportunity. I'm sorry for that. I am not going to change the general post though, because I don't want to censor my mistakes. I might add a few calming words if I have the time though. $\endgroup$ Mar 12, 2021 at 19:13

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